[Mz K]

V magazine decided their upcoming issue will be all on "plus" size model which prompted to wonder "what's plus size?" and here's what they consider plus.

What made my jaw drop is to hear the comments on these guys on thelifefiles' website.

Her rolls definitely make her plus sized. I see why they don’t put “plus sized” models up. To me she looks like she needs to work out a bit and lose some of the belly weight. To me it is one thing to be sort of big, but to actually expose and be proud of yoru fat is not cool to me. It just says its okay to eat a lot and be fat. I’m not advocating for rail thin models either. I’m advocating for models that look like they eat and workout not like they throw up after every meal. She is still a beautiful girl, but I think what should be portrayed are fit and healthy girls no matter what. Then maybe if that was the norm people would actually start working out.

Fat is Fat!!! No matter how you sexify it by calling it Plus Sized… She’s pretty… pretty fat, it’s unhealthy, putting her at risk for heart disease, diabetes, and so many other bodily failures, she’s not a role model. There’s a reason models are thin and pretty. cover this Lane Bryant bitch up!!!

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this just looks wrong. and it is wrong. its promoting obeisity which is unhealthy. yes, it is also wrong to show unhealthy skinny models, but at least it looks good.
stupid idea imo

Some of these guys comments just enrages me, especially the one talking about "health" funny about that is that most of these "thin" people they see on magazine ARE the one you hear dying of heart failures etc etc but yet quote a woman that has a few layers of fat talking about being unhealthy? Why do they quote "fat" to someone who eats too much? Never heard of people with a few rolls but yet eats healthy? I give props to that lady for even have enough courage to get on top of the magazine.

So you guys please speak am i the only one with some type of reaction? Funny how Rick Ross can get on top of magazines and NFL players are HUGE but yet....Get props?

[killa]

what's funny is that i'm sure these guys don't all have 6 packs to begin with. something else is that i've seen some real attractive plus size woman and they're cute too!!

[MrCee]

Those are just opinions because there are some guys that love plus sized women...

[Jamaicangal1]

plus size mi boxside. why do they have to be called something different bc they are a little bit bigger than some ppl. Dem lucky. as for those guys, i bet yuh sey the ooman dem weh dem have nuh cute either. Im sick of everyone thinking tht u have to be skinny to be sexy

[BlueSerenity]

some ppl are naturally smaller and some are naturally heavier..but if they are healthy i have no issue with it...
i do have a problem with ppl passing off starving women or fat women as the "model" example for the rest of us...if its unhealthy then no matter what they want to call it fat or skinny...waif or plus size its still unhealthy...

[StrawBerry]

I think she looks nice, on that pic.

[Mz. Bahamas]

i can't get what these idiots are saying..they really really don't make no sense..



if ya proud a ya body flaunt it..

if u don't love urself who would

[Jamaicangal1]

its not like she 600 pounds...like damn get over yourself people. its not tht serious. the girl looks GOOD

[liltsangie]

it makes no difference to me

Originally Posted by Mz K

V magazine decided their upcoming issue will be all on "plus" size model which prompted to wonder "what's plus size?" and here's what they consider plus.

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What made my jaw drop is to hear the comments on these guys on thelifefiles' website.



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Some of these guys comments just enrages me, especially the one talking about "health" funny about that is that most of these "thin" people they see on magazine ARE the one you hear dying of heart failures etc etc but yet quote a woman that has a few layers of fat talking about being unhealthy? Why do they quote "fat" to someone who eats too much? Never heard of people with a few rolls but yet eats healthy? I give props to that lady for even have enough courage to get on top of the magazine.

So you guys please speak am i the only one with some type of reaction? Funny how Rick Ross can get on top of magazines and NFL players are HUGE but yet....Get props?

if she were not leaning back wards there would be no appartent rolls at all i would think she would be of a resonably healthy weight most current models are far too thin and very very unhealthy they get sick at the drop of a hat can not exersize because of a lack of energy and yes the list goes on good on her who ever hiered her
regards graeme

[BlueSerenity]

saw this on another site...another layer of the topic...

Something is lacking in the current push to include plus-size models in mainstream fashion publications (or "separate-but-equal" media outlets such as Vogue Italia's "Vogue Curvy").

What's lacking, specifically in the fashion establishment but less so in the satellite world of "fatshion" blogging, is representation of models/women of color. I want to speak specifically about black plus size models/women because there is a very particular perception of blackness conflated with female fatness as compared to other races, and it's an identity I inhabit on a daily basis.

A popular (white) misconception is that fat is more acceptable in the black community. This is patently untrue. Hip-hop culture is often pointed to when one is making this argument. If you watch any hip-hop music videos at all, it's clear to see that the fat on the women featured is in specific places. Booty, hips, tits. As the inimitable Sir Mix-A-Lot stated, "When a girl walks in with an itty-bitty waist and a round thing [booty] in your face, you get sprung." (emphasis supplied) There is definitely a line between acceptable fat and unacceptable fat. Those fat women who are fortunate enough to be considered "thick" are subject to an even more extreme hyper-sexualization of their bodies than average sized or thin black women are. As the features considered sexually desirable not only by black men but also white men are exaggerated on a fat female body, these women are often portrayed as more sexually available, yet can also be portrayed as ghetto princess or hoochie - "Jezebel" and "Sapphire". But cross that line dividing "thick fat" and "just fat" and you quickly enter the territory of the desexualized fat black woman: the Precious, the mammy.
Let's take the recent example of Gabourey Sidibe, who portrayed Precious, and who basically served as a dumping ground for all the issues people have with fat, specifically, black female fat. This is the type of fat black woman continually mocked by black men in drag. Namely, characters like Eddie Murphy's Rasputia in Norbit, Tyler Perry's Madea in any number of his movies, Martin Lawrence's Shanaynay and Big Mama, and Jamie Foxx's Wanda on In Living Color. These characters are either considered too old to be sexual and are subject to the mammy stereotype, or their sexuality is portrayed as a joke, something disgusting to be avoided. Clearly the black community is not the utopia of body acceptance white America often believes it to be.

Of course, the way fat is treated in the black community only reflects how fat is treated in mainstream culture and the fashion community. However, as "curvy" - not too fat, now - is becoming more acceptable in the fashion world, it's clear the main shade of acceptable curvy is white. When Glamour magazine featured 7 nude plus size models in their November 2009 issue, only one - Anansa Sims, daughter of straight size supermodel Beverly Johnson - was black or even of color. This despite the fact that there are many more black plus size models out there, and despite the fact that the fat fashion blogosphere - an engine driving the plus sized clothing industry - is filled with examples of fat black women interested in fashion and modeling their clothes. In fact, one of the first and most popular fat fashion blogs, Young Fat & Fabulous, is run by a black woman.

So why are black, female, fat fashion bloggers, many of whom drive considerable income towards the plus size fashion industry via their blogs, not seeing themselves adequately represented in this new curvy trend? The "fatshion" movement has made it obvious to the maintream fashion establishment that there is a market out there for fashion-forward clothing in larger sizes. Any survey of the fatshion blogosphere will tell you that a great percentage of that market is black. Why are mainstream fashion mags so reluctant to include black plus size models in their spreads, and why do the "high fat fashion" retailers use all white faces as their representatives? It definitely has something to do with the aversion to using black straight size models on runways and in fashion spreads. Unless you're Alek Wek and the photographer needs the color of the clothes to "pop" against your dark skin. If thin blackness is unwelcome, imagine a double-whammy of fat blackness. Since black women's bodies tend to have an exaggeratedly feminine shape, it could be the tendency of fashion designers to pick androgynous shapes to model their clothes. Plus size white models don't usually have a very exaggerated sexualized shape. So this goes back to society's issues with black women's bodies in general. Since black women are stereotyped so often as being loose or hypersexual, any emphasis placed on sexualized body parts due to their size compounds the problem. Better to leave that can of worms alone and just work with the non-black models.

Until the straight size world fully accepts their black models, plus size black models are unlikely to achieve any more success than their thin sisters. Unfortunately neither of these things seem likely to happen soon. We as plus size women are expected to be happy with what we're given, sighing "At least we're making some progress." Yet in the fashion world progress is so often followed by regress. We as fashion consumers and drivers of commerce need to continue to work to represent our diversity in the hopes that mainstream fashion will take notice, and that this won't just be another trend. Hopefully the increasing popularity of blogs such as Young Fat and Fabulous, Musings of a Fatshionista, and on the Latina spectrum, Fatshionable will send a message to the plus size fashion establishment that we want representation of all plus size women, not just the white models we see all too often in plus size spreads. Tokenism is not acceptable. Throwing one model of color in there to satisfy all people of color is unacceptable. Real diversity needs to occur before the typical plus size fashion model truly reflects those who drive the industry's commerce. Retailers need to recognize the power these plus size blogging titans wield. Just by posting an outfit they threw on, these bloggers can inspire hundreds of fat women to go out and buy the exact same outfit.

This is an ongoing problem mirrored by the lack of meaningful inclusion of straight size black models, and like that problem, it will only be solved if we continually critique the fashion establishment and in the case of fat fashion, unpack the privilege that white plus size models (and white plus size women) enjoy at this point. Until the facts of the situation are laid bare, no work can be done to change it. With this, I'm attempting to lay down a foundation and start a dialog.

[Beautiful]

so u kno i had to comment on this BULLSHIT!!...

I've modelled and I am here to say plus size is beautiful.

I rolls all over the place and trust me, i'm gorgeous. I can walk down the street and have ppl stare and not cuz i'm heavy, but because i am beautiful. I may be plus size but i carry myself well and to all those who think because she has a roll and not a washboard stomach she's gross should take a look in the mirror.

Yes being heavy and plus has its risks, but what about bulemia and anorexia, which my sister had! she always had more health issues than i had because she wanted to be sexy n slim. I maynot be able to wear a two-piece but i can rock an evening gown in a fashion show and turn heads like Heidi Klum. So all the naysayers can literally kiss my fat ass.

Tyra had a show on kids that hated themselves, and it hurt me to see the kids that didnt like themselves because they weren't as pretty as the ppl on TV... when the little girls that she interviewed were GORGEOUS! It's sickening and depressing to see beautiful little girls cry when they look into the mirror because they arent stick thin w/ blue eyes and long straight hair.

We as a ppl are never satisfied w/ who we are or what we have... we always want someone else's life, body, money, intelligence, hair, BF/GF, etc... instead of being happy w/ ourselves. I had to learn this the hard way. Becuase I looked at myself and what i dont have (thin body, fat ass, long straight hair, small waist, etc) and looked at the girls that had it. And you know whatelse they have that I dont? KIDS AND STDs!

I work at a plus size boutique and women come in all the time looking busted because they think they cant be plus and fashion forward... FALSE!
You can wear things that "skinny" girls wear, you just have to know your body, know ur size, and know where to get the clothes. The Plus Size market is HUGE!!!... why? BECAUSE THE AVERAGE WOMAN IN AMERICA IS PLUS-SIZE! no one is a size 0-3.. and if they are, THEY WANNA BE A SIZE 8 or have what I have and i'm a 16!

People that hate on BEAUTIFUL PLUS SIZE WOMEN ARE IGNORANT AND A WASTE OF TIME.... I'm Plus and I'm Beautiful

[Beautiful]

That was a lot, but i had to say it

[Mz K]

Well said
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www lovethesecurves com did a big thing about these models from this specific shoot. Wow, they are gorgeous. that is all I will say.