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    Do you think hollywood/american society is unable to sit watch a black man in a sex scene with a white woman like the author of the article implies

    Despite his status as one of the leading box office draws in the world, Will Smith has rarely been the first choice for any of the roles he's played. By and large, Smith has come into rolls like "Men in Black," "Enemy of the State," "I Am Legend" and "Hancock" after a variety of white actors either left the projects or passed altogether. Even "Bad Boys" was originally meant for Jon Lovitz and Dana Carvey. The recasting of lead roles with Smith automatically changed whatever romantic or sexual overtones a film might have had, bringing along the unwanted, and potentially controversial subject of interracial sexuality. This explains why in films like "I, Robot," "Men in Black" and "Hancock," what seems like a potential love interest (or at the very least sexual distraction) never pans out.

    The role of racial politics surrounding Will Smith's inability to get the girl, even when there is a girl to get got is worth exploring. In the films where Smith does have some sort of romantic/sexual relationship with a woman -- be it an action film or a comedy -- she is always played by a black or Hispanic actress (i.e. Regina King in "Enemy of State," Eva Mendez in "Hitch"). But Smith's characters have never had a relationship with the white women he has been cast opposite of. This signals a definite step backwards from the days of films like "Shaft" and "Slaughter," where black action heroes like Richard Roundtree and Jim Brown got white girls all the time.

    Hollywood began portraying black men as something other than non-sexual eunuchs in the late 1960s, when Jim Brown got black actress Diahann Carroll in "The Split" and Latino actress Raquel Welch in "100 Rifles." This trend continued throughout the 1970s, with black actors in action films getting women of various ethnicities. But by the 1980s, the asexual black man like those portrayed by Sidney Poitier in films like "Lilies of the Field" was back. With the exception of getting it on with a hooker in "48 Hours," Eddie Murphy never got the girl in any of his action comedies, creating an archetype of a black action hero that is quick with a joke, often at the expense of the predominantly white supporting cast, who for a variety of reasons never gets the girl. This is best exemplified by "Beverly Hills Cop," a film featuring one of the most emasculated heroes in movie history.

    Now that Murphy has moved on to making lamebrain family comedies where he plays the husband/father, Will Smith seems to have inherited his crown as the somewhat emasculated hero. This was never more blatant than his most recent hits, "Hancock" and "I Am Legend". In "Hancock," it is established, rather improbably, that Smith and co-star Charlize Theron were once romantically entangled, but then just as improbably comes up with a convoluted explanation as to why they can't be together. This rather contrived and inane reason establishes that if the two characters try to get together, they will die, making the basic message in "Hancock" that if Smith's invulnerable superhero gets with the white girl, it will kill him.

    In "I Am Legend," Smith plays Robert Neville, a man alone in New York City after most of the world is turned into poorly rendered CGI albino monsters. Neville's loneliness is so consuming that he takes to putting the moves on a mannequin. A mannequin! But when an uninfected woman shows up in the form of Anna (Alice Braga), the requisite and gratuitous love scene never follows. Sure, there was a deadly threat outside, but that didn't stop Charlton Heston from getting it on with Rosalind Cash under the same circumstances in another adaptation of "I Am Legend," 1973's "The Omega Man."

    There is a bold statement to be derived from the fact that the last man on Earth, after three years with nothing but a dog and some mannequins to keep him company, doesn't take the time, even in the face of impending doom, to make some sweet love. There is also a bold statement to be made that in seven of Smith's nine action films he doesn't get the girl. And that statement, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, is that Will Smith has been robbed of the carnal reward that has said to so many other action heroes before him, "Job well done."


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    hmm. . i never really noticed that but now that it is pointed out it def seems as if it is taboo. like in seven pounds the love interest of smith was hispanic


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    mmmmm... I really don't care if the woman is black, white or chinese!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valek View Post
    mmmmm... I really don't care if the woman is black, white or chinese!!!!
    lol..i dont doubt that....but the author of the article is saying that in the 80's hollywood has portrayed black leading men as asexual when the leading lady was a white woman...and only had them in love/sex scenes when the leading lady was black or latina....as if america/hollywood cant watch a black man having a white woman..


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    Same here I don't care either. But I don't think what he says is fully true... Perhaps will smith (which in most of those movies is a director or something alone those lines) might have been more comfy with a black or hyspanic? Notice all these guys he named either are/were or had kids with either light skin, half breed women? Eddie murphy and nicole murphy? Or even melanie brown? Will smith and jada? I'm not tpo sure if he has a valid point or he's just going too deep. In save the last dance... Black and white...and I could name loads of movie with interratioal sex.
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    even if they aren't tonnes of ppl are still watching halle berry and Billy Bob Thornton...i even saw it on a porn site
    oh yeah i forgot about Julia stiles with Michai Pfeifer in O and with that guyanese dude whose name ic an't remember in save the last dance
    Ashton Kutcher and Zoe Saldana in Guess who

    that being said some ppl prolly don tink halle "black" enough and i do believe that the writer of the article has apoint however...i do not think that black men not being cast with white women in some of these movies are just coincidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mz K View Post
    Same here I don't care either. But I don't think what he says is fully true... Perhaps will smith (which in most of those movies is a director or something alone those lines) might have been more comfy with a black or hyspanic? Notice all these guys he named either are/were or had kids with either light skin, half breed women? Eddie murphy and nicole murphy? Or even melanie brown? Will smith and jada? I'm not tpo sure if he has a valid point or he's just going too deep. In save the last dance... Black and white...and I could name loads of movie with interratioal sex.
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    both sides are true. but it doesnt matter to me either way. i never pay attention to those types of things. but question if there was a "black" movie (such as a tyler perry film) where there are mostly black actors and the main guy falls for the white girl...would that be viewed differently?


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    obviously it would it would even ruin Tyler perry's movies lol

    you know how black people are

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    int he family that preys sanaa lathan chets with the white man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mz K View Post
    obviously it would it would even ruin Tyler perry's movies lol

    you know how black people are
    you know it. especially if its a black man with a white woman. honestly i cant say i wouldnt care in that situation because in the back of my mind i know im gonna be thinking "oh so why the white chick?"...


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    i think he is talking about big draw actors which is why he mentioned eddie murphy and will smith...also he is talking about black men with white women....not black women with white men....and zoe is latina so she still falls under the point he is making...i do believe he has a point although i think some of the actors choices might also be taken into consideration...and i do believe some black women would be offended and i know some white men would lose their damn mind...lol...i could care less..


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    yea what blue said ..they all have dicks so i couldn't careless

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSerenity View Post
    i think he is talking about big draw actors which is why he mentioned eddie murphy and will smith...also he is talking about black men with white women....not black women with white men....and zoe is latina so she still falls under the point he is making...i do believe he has a point although i think some of the actors choices might also be taken into consideration...and i do believe some black women would be offended and i know some white men would lose their damn mind...lol...i could care less..
    true...i think some just blow this whole race issue out of proportion. many of us never really thought about this until the article. but he does make a point.


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    Default you forgot blazin saddles

    you forgot blazing saddles where the black sherrif (Cleavon Little) gets the white saloon chick Lili Von Shtupp (Madeline Kahn),


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